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HomeTech Articles > Additional Instructions for Testing Bosch CIS

Additional Instructions
for Testing Bosch CIS


 
 

Four pressure tests can be made with this tester: 

  1. Cold Control Pressure – engine cold, valve open
  2. Warm Control Pressure – engine warm, valve open
  3. Primary Pressure – engine cold or warm, valve closed (closed valve eliminates control pressure)
  4. Rest Pressure – engine warm, valve open

The CIS pressures shown in this book are for the warm control pressures. For pressures for tests A & C, consult the vehicle service manual, a Mitchell Fuel Injection manual, of Robert Bosch Service Guide booklet for Fuel Injection.

To make tests:

  1. For test “A” (above), the engine should be cold, standing several hours or overnight.
     
  1. Relieve fuel system pressure.
     
  1. Make sure fuel filter is not clogged. Replace if doubtful.
     
  1. Clean dirt off the fuel distributor cap.
     
  1. Referring to the typical CIS hookup diagram, hook up the tester between the fuel distributor and the control pressure regulator. The hose without the flow control valve should be connected to the center of the fuel distributor. The hose with the valve should be connected to the hose removed from the fuel distributor or connected directly to the control pressure regulator.
     
    1. CAUTION: hand tighten any adapters with the O-rings to avoid damage to O-rings.
       
    1. In a few cases, to get the right combination of threads to connect, the adapters may have to be piggy-backed.
       
  1. Reactivate fuel pump, start the engine and check for leaks.
     
  1. When the tester is connected, remove the air from the system
     
    1. If your tester has a release valve under the gauge, wrap a rag over the valve and depress button until the air is released. Do not do this over a hot engine or manifold.
       
    1. If your tester has a bleed-off valve, put the end of the bleed-off valve tubing in a fuel container and with fuel pump operating, bleed until air is removed.
       
    1. If your tester has none of the above, position the gauge downward as far as the hoses will allow with the gauge below the hoses and control valve. Operate fuel pump with the engine off. Open and close the control valve at least 5 times with the valve in the off and on position at least 12 seconds.
       
  1. When pressure stabilizes, read the gauge. If the Cold Control Pressure is not correct, the warm-up regulator may be at fault.
     
  1. If pressure is okay, run the pressure checks
     
    1. Warm Control Pressure and Rest Pressure must be measured with engine warm.
    2. Primary Pressure can be measured with engine cold or warm.
       
  1. Pressure range
     
    1. If pressures are not within the normal range on the control Pressure Warm test, try adjusting the fuel pressure regulator. If it cannot be adjusted to normal pressures, replace it unless the problem is as below (b)
       
    1. If the pressure is low with engine running and at idle, check to see if the voltage is at least 11.5V at the warm-up regulator plug contacts. If full voltage is available at the plug, then the warm-up regulator may need replacing.
       
  1. If the pressure is too low, test the fuel pump volume. Also, there may be a blockage in the supply line or leakage in the return line. If the system has none of these, the fuel system pressure needs adjustment. Consult the factory manual or fuel injection manual for the procedure.
     
  1. If Rest Pressure drops too quickly, check for leaks at O-rings and fuel line connections. If no external leaks, check for a leaking cold start valve of fuel injectors. If still no leaks there, leakage may be at the fuel pump check valve or at the O-ring on the relief valve in the fuel distributor. Repair or replace.
     
  1. If no problems can be found in the fuel injection system through pressure testing, fuel pump should be checked. For this, your tester should have a bleed-off valve and tubing. If you do not have one, it can be purchased from your tool supplier. With gauge hooked up to pressure test, put bleed-off tube into a fuel container of at least 2 quarts or 2 liters. Fuel flow in 30 seconds should be 1.5 - 2.0 pints or ¾ - 1 liter. Turbo cars may have a volume of 20 – 25% more than non-turbo.
     
  1. Deactivate fuel pump and relieve fuel system pressure. With key off, put bleed-off tubing in a fuel can and press bleed-off valve. If your tester has no bleed-off valve assembly, wrap rags around connection and release slowly. A bleed-off assembly can be purchased from your tool supplier.
     
  1. Remove tester and reconnect all lines.
     
  1. Start engine and check for leaks.
     
  1. Remove fuel from all hoses. If fuel remains in gauge hose assembly, connect the smallest banjo bolt adapter into the quick coupler over a fuel container. Hold gauge above hose and fuel will flow into the fuel can.
     

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Comments and Suggestions:
JamesG4381Comments: Does anyone know what the pressures are supposed to be for the European version of the 82 911 Targa. Since horse power is different I am curios whether some of the pressures shouild be different.I just got my 911 and am having cold running issues. I replaced the O2 sensor and its better but still struggles cold with a lot of poping into the intake initially then missing untill runs normall temperature.I'm abouyt to try a full diag on the system and was curiou8s.It also backfires significantly during hard deceleration all the time.Seems like may be running rich
October 22, 2011
porsch problemComments: i have problems whit my 88 911 porsch 3.2 wen the motor is cool runs good but wen is hot never start
please some body help me !!!
September 12, 2011
kokoComments: more on 76 911 with 80s engine: I thought it was the fuel pump but after removing, testing found it in good condition. After reinstallng the pump my trick pressing on the ventury worked again, but only once. Back to no resistance when i press the ventury. HELP!!
August 25, 2011
kokoComments: My 76 911 has early 80s 3.0 . How can I Identify the year?
My real problem is starting. I use to press the air ventury until i felt resistance and heard a bucking sound. then the engine would start, hot or cold. now i cant feel resistance any more, just clicking of the fuel relay.
August 25, 2011
NewbeComments: Hi, I need to find fuel supply pressure and warm up regulator pressure control pressure for cold engine. I have a 1977 911S. I do have cis fuel gauge. Car starts cold then stalls and back fires intill warm , then runs great
January 8, 2011
Targa BobComments: Step 13. According to C. Probst in Bosch Fuel Injection & Engine Management Bentley Publishers, Chapter 6 page 12 the delivery specs are .160 to .240 liters for 60 seconds. See Fig. 4-4 for diagram of procedure. Am I mistaken, this should be the same test setup. Delivery specs are so different.
September 29, 2010
European_RoccComments: i don't think it should matter at that rate; based on manuals i have read about CIS, the engine can't use all of the gas the pump delivers anyway. The pumps just constantly return it to the gas tank hence the title
continuous injection system. I really doubt an ounce of a different is going to cause problems with your performance, unless you run the car at full pedal everywhere you go. So the answer is: Yes 44 ounces should be sufficient.
June 27, 2010
 Followup from the Pelican Staff: Actually, the name CIS (Continuous Injection System) doesn't refer to the recirculation of the fuel back to the tank - the MFI systems also did that as well. CIS refers to the fact that fuel is injected into the cylinders at a constant rate - they are not pulsed with respect to the position of the crank or camshafts. Even when the valves are closed, the system is still pumping fuel into the intake. It's not a very advanced system, although the modern Motronic fuel injection system that was introduced to the 911 afterwards also used continuous / pulsed injection. If you look at the wiring diagrams for the 1984-89 Carreras, you will see that each bank of injectors are electronically wired together. So, they do pulse in a metered fashion with respect to crank speed and throttle position, they too also dump fuel into the intake in a non-timed fashion, similar to the CIS cars. - Wayne at Pelican Parts
GregComments: I recently did the fuel pump delivery test on my '78 5 speed 928 at the return line on the system pressure regulator that is part of the fuel distributor as outlined in the Bosch Fuel Injection and Engine Management publication. Shop manual calls for at least 1360cc = 45.9 ounces after 30 seconds-2 fuel pumps. I collected just about 44 ounces, is this sufficient considering I used a 7" hose with a banjo fitting and connected another 53" hosetotal 60" that ran up from the fuel distributor over the fender and into a container. I disconnected the 53" segnent of hose and lost some in the process also there was a seep at the fuel feed line which I have since tightened.Used a $12 watch with second hand for time. All things considered does 44 ounces seem sufficient? Any knowlegeable response is greatly appreciated. Greg Heinrichs
April 20, 2010

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