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Bleeding Porsche Brakes

Steven M. Stomski

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Porsche 911 (1965-89)
Porsche 912 (1965-69)

After talking to many owners, it would seem that there are more methods for bleeding brakes on a Porsche than there are cures for the common cold. Fortunately, I have polled many people and tried several different solutions, and I think that I have come up with the best compromise solution. This article is adapted from the original 914 brake bleeding article. However, the techniques documented in here are not appropriate for bleeding 914 brakes, as the 914 has that pesky hydraulic proportioning valve. For more information on bleeding 914 brakes, please see our Pelican Technical Article, Bleeding 914 Brakes.

There are currently three methods of bleeding the brake system:

  • Pressure Bleeding. This is where you have a reservoir of brake fluid, and place a positive air pressure force on the opposite side of the fluid, forcing it into the brake system.
  • Vacuum Bleeding. This is where you fill the reservoir, and then apply a vacuum at the bleeder nipple to pull fluid through the system.
  • Family Member Bleeding.This is where you recruit the one family member or friend who owes you a favor and have them stomp on the pedal repeatedly until the entire system is bled. Note that this has nothing to do with the time that little Jimmy fell on the concrete and had to be rushed to the hospital.

The method that I've come up with combines the first and the third methods described above. Basically, I advocate bleeding the system with the pressure bleeder, and then using a family member to stomp on the pedal to free up the proportioning valve. If the family member really owes you big time, you will be the one stomping on the pedal, and they can spill brake fluid all over themselves.

The first step in bleeding your brakes is to fill the system with brake fluid. Some people have suggested that colored brake fluid be used in order to determine when fresh fluid has been flushed through the entire system. I used a pressure bleeder like the Eezi-Bleed System shown in Figure 1. The system works by pressurizing a bottle filled with brake fluid from air in the spare tire. Inflate your tire to 20 psi, fill the bottle, attach it to the top of the reservoir (Figure 2), and then connect it to the spare tire. This will pressurize the system. Note: brake fluid is highly corrosive and will mar paint very easily. Bleeding your brakes is a messy job; keep yourself away from the paint and don't bleed the system in tight garage. The probability of spilling on yourself and then leaning against your car is too great.

Now start bleeding the system. Start with the right rear caliper, the one that's located furthest away from the master cylinder. You will have to remove the rear wheels of the car to easily get to the rear caliper. The front wheels can be turned for access to the calipers. Bleed the right rear caliper by attaching a hose to the bleed nipple, placing it in a jar, and then opening the valve with a 7mm wrench. A bleeder nipple is shown in Figure 3, and can be opened by turning it counter clockwise. Let the fluid out until there are no more bubbles. If you don't have a pressure bleeder system, you need to find someone to press on the pedal repeatedly to force fluid through the system. Another solution is to get a check valve and place it on the nipple while you stomp on the pedal. This will work for getting fluid into the system but you will still need a second person to make sure you have bleed the proportioning valve properly. If your rear caliper has two bleed nipples (some have one, others have two), bleed the lower one first.

When no more air bubbles come out, then move to the next caliper. Bleed them in this order:

  • Right Rear Caliper
  • Left Rear Caliper
  • Right Front Caliper
  • Left Front Caliper

Repeat until you can no longer see any air bubbles coming out of any of the calipers. Make sure that you don't run out of brake fluid in your reservoir, or you will have to start over again. It is wise to start with about a gallon of brake fluid. Depending upon your car, and the mistakes you may make, it's wise to have an ample supply.

Now, make sure that all the bleeder valves are closed tightly. Disconnect the pressure system from the reservoir. Now, get your family member to press down repeatedly on the brake pedal at least five times, and then hold it down. Then open the bleeder valve on the right rear caliper. The system should lose pressure, and the pedal should sink to the floor. When the fluid stops coming out of the bleeder valve, close the valve, and then tell your family member to let their foot off of the pedal. Do not let them take their foot off until you have completely closed the valve. Repeat this motion for each valve at least three times. Repeat this entire procedure for all the valves in the same order as described previously.

Then, let the car sit for about 10 minutes. Repeat the bleeding process at each corner. The pedal should now feel pretty stiff.

If the pedal still feels spongy, make sure that you have the proper adjustment on your rear calipers or drum shoes. Also, you may need a new master cylinder, have a leaky caliper, or have old spongy flexible brake lines.

Be sure to rinse off brake fluid that has spilled on painted surfaces with water. Wiping it will only smear the paint more (I talk from experience here).

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Steven M. Stomski (Jstomski@aol.com) also has the following to add:

Recent postings re pressure bleeding brakes prompts this response. I too have found that pressure bleeding provides the best "pedal." I have had very little luck with the vacuum type (Mity Vac) and while pedal pumping certainly is thorough, an available SO or co-mechanic is not always an option (not to mention the trouble pumping your brakes during bleeding causes with your master cylinder!). The best pressure bleeders could end up costing several hundreds of dollars and likely will not deliver that much harder of a pedal.

My solution to the brake bleeding dilemma has been to fabricate a rather simple pressure bleeder. While I have been tempted to market this system, I am happy to outline the parts and the concept for my fellow Porsche wrenchers.

There are a couple of options for pressure source. As mentioned in other posts, a compressor is a good source of air, but not absolutely necessary. Some commercial systems (possibly the EZ system) use your spare tire as a compressed air reservoir and this could work for you as well. Any suitable storage tank can be used as well.

The most crucial difference in my system, compared to any other that I have seen, is the addition of an air filter. As we all know, brake fluid is hydroscopic (it absorbs water- definitely a no-no when it comes to brake fluid) and thus must be kept dry. Any compressed air will contain substantial amounts of H2O and thus must be filtered before using to pressure bleed. I simply install in line a "last chance" air filter, the type used when spray painting to keep the air dry (costs about $3 at any paint shop).

While the cap for the reservoir can be purchased, I simply used a spare cap, drilled it, and installed a tire valve. Other "options" in my system include an in line pressure gauge (while some people might think pressure bleeding is for "Chevys," if you keep the pressure low - around 10- 15 lbs., you won't have any problems. I also install a regulator valve/shut off.

The key to my system is to seal off the over flow and to NEVER let the reservoir run dry. One way to assure fluid in the reservoir at all times is to "bleed" with a small enough container that you have to empty regularly. Each time you empty the container (which should be smaller in capacity than the reservoir), shut the line off to the pressure, and top the reservoir off.

Enjoy- If any one has more suggestions, or comments (or needs further instructions), please let the e-mail, and brake fluid, flow.

In a message dated 98-09-22 Thom Fitzpatrick asked me what trouble pumping your brakes during bleeding causes with your master cylinder. Thanks for the follow-up Thom, I suspected someone would ask that question and should have dealt with it then instead of now, but here goes.

In "normal" use, the plunger/piston in a master cylinder probably only goes into the cylinder about 1/3 of the way or so. In part this is true because under "normal" use we don't really push the limits of pressure of the system and don't need the extreme pressure the MC can deliver. It is also true because under "normal" use when we use the pedal, the system is pressurized and we really can't push much further without some serious force. When racing, the system looses some of its effective pressure (OK, I am not an mechanical engineer, but boiled fluid, fluid with water or air, or trashy fluid can be compressed more than otherwise, right?). So, in racing, or when bleeding your brakes with the valves open, the piston can freely depress into the cylinder to the physical (non-pressure) limit of the MC. While new MCs have clean and smooth pistons, pistons on older MCs are prone to get dirty, and yes even rust or corrode. As the piston is depressed into the MC under normal braking, the seals and fluid help to keep that 1/3 or so clean, smooth, and well lubricated. The remaining 2/3s or so is exposed to the air and does not get the benefit of regular cleaning. When one depresses the piston when bleeding and the valves are open, the dirty 2/3s (no cigar comments, please) enters the cylinder and drags across the seals. While it might not be the worst thing in the world in general, the more dirt or corrosion on the cylinder or the more frequent and vigorous the pumping of the dirty piston across the seals, the worst the damage, which leads to a leaky MC.

Hope this helps.

Steven M. Stomski
Stomski Racing
Jstomski@aol.com
http://members.aol.com/jstomski/

Eezi-Bleed Pressure System
Figure 1

Eezi-Bleed Pressure System

Figure 2

Brake Fluid Reservoir

Figure 3

Bleed Nipple (914 Caliper Shown)

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Comments and Suggestions:
Jan Comments: The brakes are applying on their own. It is similar to the collapsed hose symptom. I suspect that could be it as it gets harder after soem time of driving, braking at crossings, corners etc. It does seems unlikely that all four hoses collapse at the same time...
It is a 911T from 1970 that is not used as a daily driver so it sits for long periods of time.
After I bought it a long time ago I switched to silcone fluid as it is not hygroscopic but I got nervous it might ruin brake hoses so I switched back to normal brake fluid a couple of years ago. It was working fine when parked and 7-8 months later this happened.
My garage is extremely small so there is no room to change hoses there so I was hoping soemone could Point myé i nthe right direction Before I start changing things on whim...
August 3, 2015
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: I agree, all four sounds unlikely to be a hose. If you crank a brake line at the master, do the wheels release? - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Jan Comments: I have a problem I couldn't find in any other question...
All my brake calipers yes, all 4 brakes harder and harder after driving 10-15 minutes on the road. They do this by their own. Only thing I can do is stop and wait for some time before I can drive home and weep a little... After i stop they are hot and if I spit on the discs it sizzles, so they are hot!
What can this be?
August 1, 2015
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Do you mean it is harder to press the brake, or the brakes are applying on their own? - Nick at Pelican Parts  
randers Comments: Hello, Last night I tried the 2 person bleeding procedure on my 914 w/ 911sc front brakes. I was about 75% successful and only reached a hiccup when something plugged my right front braided stainless. I successfully removed the blockage, but after reassembling the line I was unable to regain pressure at the front right corner using the bleeding procedure.

There is a squishy sound when the brakes are engaged repeatedly. Fluid also flows freely from the right front as well.

Any thoughts?

Any Suggest
June 3, 2015
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: If the restriction came from upstream, there may be something else blocked or broken. I would work your way to the master cylinder checking fora blockage. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Michael Comments: Great article. I have an E30 that I run in SpecE30. I built the car ground up with all new components and hardware about 15 months ago. I am now having the problem of the pedal going to the floor. Pump it up and hold and it slowly goes to the floor. The MC was brand new when I built the car. Is there anything that can cause the MC to fail in that short of time? Are there issues with pump bleeding pumping the brakes and allowing the pedal to go to the floor?
February 21, 2015
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: If there are no leaks, only thing can be overboost or a fault master cylinder. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Noel WJ Comments: I have a 1986 Porsche 944 and cannot get any brake pedal pressure after I have bled all four brake calipers. Any help or advice would be much appreciated.
November 28, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Sounds like a bad master cylinder. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
RW Comments: I just installed a new master cylinder and the 4 flexible brake lines in my 1977 911S. after a successful vacuum and family member bleeding process many times, I drove the car for a test drive. Hard pedal,strong braking and no leaks, but the right rear brake dragged and got hot mid drive. I let it cool a few minutes and drove further with no symptoms. Any ideas or solutions appreciated, thanks.
November 25, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: You either have a restricted hose or a hanging caliper. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Greg Comments: It's done. There were 3 hoses connected to the reservoir. The small one is an overflow that actually drains into the front trunk. It had an "extension" attached to it that directed the overflow under the car. I just pinched it with a vise grip and the pressure bleeder held pressure just fine. Thanks to everyone.
November 12, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Thanks for the follow up. We appreciate it.
- Nick at Pelican Parts
 
Greg Comments: Yes, and it has a small hose attached to it. but the odd thing is - the fluid level doesn't seem to come up to the level of the overflow vent. I'm not sure what's happening here. Thanks!
November 9, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Is the vehicle manual transmission? The small hose runs to the clutch master. You may be pushing fluid out of that connection. Inspect the hose to the clutch master. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Greg Comments: Greetings,

I could use some help. I just replaced my rear calipers on my '89 G-model. Bought the pressure bleeder from PP and tried to bleed all the brakes. As soon as I applied pressure only 10 psi, the fluid promptly leaks out from what appears to be an overflow line under the car, inside the left front wheel. Any solution?

Thanks, Greg
November 8, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: There shouldn't be an overflow. Does it look like a plastic straw sticking off the reservoir? - Nick at Pelican Parts  
dan Comments: 1986 porsche 911 brake pedal to the floor at 60 mph. Pumped pedal 4-5 Times to the floor. Stopped the car and the pedal pressure returned to normal. Shut car off and pumped pedal 30-40 times without issue. Any idea what caused the isolated failure?
September 22, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Either you overheated the brake fluid or you have a faulty master. I would start by flushing the brake fluid. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Pierre Comments: Hi guys, I have a 986, and I feel that my ABS is entering too early on breakings not that strong. could it be because of old breaking fluids?
regards
July 10, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Fluid will not cause early ABS activation. You could have a faulty wheel speed sensor. I would check and monitor wheel speed using a Porsche scan tool. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Ed Comments: Need help. 1983 Euro SC. Car stood and some brake pistons froze. Unfroze pistons and replaced seals and dust covers, sanded rust off. Replaced master cylinder. New brake shoes. Bleed every method known to man. Pressure, Vacuum and wife pumping peddle. Replaced flexible lines with braided lines. Feels good for a month and reverts back to the floor under easy braking. Can it only be the calipers.
May 19, 2014
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: COuld be the calipers or the master cylinder. You will have to locate the area of the pressure loss. You can block off the master cylinder with plugs and see if it pedal stays hard. If so, isolate each caliper to determine the fault one. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
dykaar Comments: In my case, I discovered that the level in the resevoir neede to be higher than I thought to keep air out. All is well. On to setting ride height!

Regards,

doug

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November 20, 2013
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Thanks for the additional Info. We appreciate it.
- Nick at Pelican Parts
 
dykaar Comments: How does the pressure reducer affect the bleeding process? I have an 86 951, and after rebuilding the rear suspension, I can't get fluid under vacuum to the right rear. Still have fluid in the reservoir. WTF? Just lack of patience? How long should it take to pull fluid the length of the car?
July 21, 2013
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Vacuum bleeders can be a pain. If you open the bleeder and press the brake pedal, does fluid come out? if so there isn't a restriction. I would pressure bleed it using the brakes pedal. With bleeder closed, pump the pedal a few times until it is solid, then hold it down while you open the bleeder. Allow the fluid to come out, then close the bleeder. Once the bleeder is closed, release the brake pedal. Repeat until air is gone and pedal is solid.- Nick at Pelican Parts  
Matt Comments: Hi,

Are the procedures above applicable for a 997?

Thanks,
Matt
August 21, 2012
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: The procedure is closer to your vehicle: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Boxster_Tech/48-BRAKES-Bleeding_Brakes/48-BRAKES-Bleeding_Brakes.htm

However not for your exact vehicle. - Nick at Pelican Parts
 
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March 3, 2012
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Thanks for the input on this one. We appreciate the help.
- Nick at Pelican Parts
 
Kng Comments: I have 2006 Boxster based always have service done by the dealer. It time to replace brake my questions is how do I know when to bleed the system and do I need any special tools. Thanks.
December 2, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: The 2006 Boxster system is pretty straightforward, unless you have stability management, which needs a special bleeding procedure (I'm not sure if PSM was standard on this car). The Porsche factory reader (PST-2 and PIWIS) have a special bleed mode that the car must be put into, in order to bleed the PSM systems. But, the regular ABS systems should still be okay, following the instructions in this article: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Boxster_Tech/48-BRAKES-Bleeding_Brakes/48-BRAKES-Bleeding_Brakes.htm - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
Wanda Comments: I have a 2006 Boxster S w/ABS and PSM. Do you have to do anything different than your article on bleeding Porsche brakes?? THanks
August 27, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: PSM - Porsche Stability Management, typically has to be bled using a special "bleed mode" that you put the car in using the Porsche factory tool. I have heard of people bleeding the cars successfully without the tool, but this would probably only be appropriate in a situation where you were simply replacing a caliper or brake line and only needed to bleed a small section of the system. For a full-system bleed, I'm pretty sure you need the PST-2 Porsche testing tool. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
Pauly Comments: Hi Guys ..Have a '75 911s had it stored for last twelve months ,its back on the road this week but the brakes seem to be locked .Its drivable but there on about 20% i reckon ...any ideas how to solve ..Regards
August 25, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Are the calipers or parking brakes seized? You may be able to free them. If they will not release, you will have to replace what has failed. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
PabloX Comments: Is there any reason that vacuum bleeding shouldn't be attempted on an '86 911 3.2? I have a good vacuum bleeding system with a powered vacuum pump and it's worked very well on other cars. I have read that the 993 should not be bled in this manner and I'd like to know if that applies to this car as well.

Thanks.
June 29, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: I would stick with presure bleeding if you can. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
plserie Comments: I have a 87 Porsche 928 and occasionally 1 out of 10 times of applying the brake the pedal goes to the floor. Once i hit the brake again its fine. Any thoughts?
June 21, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: If you pump the brakes up with the engine off until the pedal is hard, then hold it, does it slowly drop to the floor? If so the master cylinder is faulty. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Julio Comments: I used a pressure bleeder on my 356B to replace the fluid now my pedal is too high. Do I have to use the 'manual' method of someone pushing on the pedal while I'm bleeding some fluid to the proper level. This didn't happen the two other times I replaced the fluid this way. Thanks
June 16, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: If the pedal feel is good, just too high, try a quick manual bleed. Once at wheel might do it. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
GPkatsaras Comments: The only good way to bleed brakes is the family member way, but both people doing it really have to know what they are doing. But to do it best you should first start at the closest calipers and work toward the furthest and then start all over from the furthest and work back toward the closest. It actually takes 3 people one to pump the brakes, one to keep the MS full and one to work the wrench. The reason for this is to push out contaminants as quickly as possible without spreading them throughout the system.
April 22, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Thanks for the input on this one. We appreciate the help.
- Nick at Pelican Parts
 
Hank Comments: Thanks for the article. Please clarify the freeing-up of the proportioning valve. Specifically, is this necessary because the first phase 20 psig is insufficient to do so? When one gets to the "family member" step, doesn't the pedal sinking to the floor violate the "dirty 2/3" rule that we guarded against by employing the pressure technique? Or,is that the price we must pay to to free up the proportioning valve? How did the proportioning valve get stuck? Thanks again.
March 8, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Good questions, but I'm not familiar with the 2/3 issue? As long as the pedal doesn't retract to draw air back into the system, you should be fine. The proportioning valve is spring loaded and is designed to work with the higher pressures associated with the brake pedal. Using just the pressure bleeder doesn't always bleed the system completely. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
thedude113 Comments: How do you bleed big reds with two bleeder valves at each caliper, at the same time or one after the other?
January 19, 2011
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Bleed the lower screw first, and then bleed the upper one. That is what Brembo recommends. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
Jay Comments: I recently attended my first DE with my 1991 964 C2 cabriolet. When my brakes became spongy two fellow club members immediately produced nealy identical Motive pressure brake bleeder bottles with 45mm pressure caps, one cap was plastic and the second aluminum. Both appeared to fit but neither cap would produce an effective seal on my stock C2 brake reservoir so we were unable to bleed the brakes. Several gearheads looked at this and were unable to figure it out. The gasket appeared to be seating on the top of the reservoir. I went to a local part supplier and the counter person and although they carried Motive products was unable to explain why the 45mm caps would not seal on my C2 reservoir. Any idea what's up with this?
July 28, 2010
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Was it leaking out of the actual seal? On some of the early Porsches, there is a bleeder reservoir overflow hose that needs to be plugged, otherwise pressure will not build up. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
wally Comments: I have 2002 carrera and it was sitting for awhile now the brake pedal is stiking imeean the pedal is not coming back all the way to the top so i have to lift it up in order to drive other wise is stiking any body knows what to do?
July 16, 2010
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Sounds like you might need a new master cylinder, check out this article for the Boxster, the 996 is the same: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/Boxster_Tech/56-BRAKES-Master_Cylinder/56-BRAKES-Master_Cylinder.htm - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
YZRooster Comments: I have a 1980 911 that has a strange phenomena happen occasionally under light braking. The pedal will go soft and some times it will go to the floor. I have rebuilt the calipers and installed new lines and I used a pressure bleeder to bleed the system. I did not do additional manual pedal bleeding to bleed the proportioning valve as I have never heard of the need until I read this chain of discusion. Are my symptoms those of a improper bleeding of the proportioning valve? Or is the master cylinder or booster on the way out? Thanks for any help in understanding.
March 10, 2010
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: If you pump the brakes up with the engine off until the pedal is hard, then hold it, does it slowly drop to the floor? If so the master cylinder is faulty. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
Nizzauck Comments: My 928 s4 has been sitting for over 2 years and will not bleed. Ive managed to bleed out the clutch but no fluid comes through the calipers. Im wondering if it could be the abs pump or the master cyl.
January 7, 2010
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: I would start at the master cylinder, crack the closest line fitting, then press the pedal to see if fluid comes out. If it does, work your way toward the caliper until you find the restriction. If nothing comes out at master, it is faulty. - Nick at Pelican Parts  
SCAN MAN Comments: I HAVE A 56 356 BRAKE LIGHTS STAY ON CHANGED THE SWITCH NO HELP IF I REMOVE THE WIRES AND PUT THEM BACK LIGHTS GO OUT. STEP ON THE BRAKE AND THAY STAY ON AGAIN HELP PLEASE
September 27, 2009
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Sounds like you have an electrical short somewhere in the system. Check out the article in our section here about electrical problems - it shows some issues with the E36 trunk that may be causing your problems. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
testcrash Comments: Do I need to follow the same instructions for a Porsche to bleed the brakes on a '86 Volvo 760 Turbo? I want to get a pressure bleeder so that I can easily replace the fluid in my brake and clutch systems. I live in Mexico and the concept of replacing the brake fluid is strange to most mechanics here. Also the same mechanics seem to have a problem bleeding the brakes properly.
September 23, 2009
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: Sure, it should work the same - the pressure bleeder tool is applicable to all European cars. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  
Ken Comments: Please answer a question. I'm not a mechanic, but I've read a number of bleeding articles. Why do most articles say bleed the shortest length first master cylinder or left front and some say start at the longest right rear?
I was under the impression the you should start with the shortest..........
May 20, 2009
  Followup from the Pelican Staff: That's a good question, I'm not really sure. Some modern cars have you start with the closest wheels (as seen in one Honda manual). In the old days, it was always the conventional wisdom to bleed the wheel farthest away first to remove the most air out of the system on the first pass. - Wayne at Pelican Parts  

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