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Pelican Guest Technical Article:

Installing 997 Seats
Into a 986 Boxster

Jan Kramer

 I have a 1998 Boxster, which had pretty worn seats. When I wanted to replace these seats, I found several nice looking seat pairs for later 997 Porsche models. I decided to buy a pair of seats from a 2007 Porsche 997.

Unfortunately, these seats have a completely different electrical connection compared to my original Boxster seats. Not only are there different plugs, but the complete seat is powered via e CPU with memory function. The CPU is using a CAN bus signal , which my old Boxster of course does not provide. After looking at several websites, searching for wiring diagrams, I decided to re-wire the seat control switches myself, bypassing the memory CPU.

The following images include photos and a description of the re-wiring job. The seats are installed in my car now, and all seat motors work well. The lumbar adjustment is still not re-wired, perhaps I'll do this next winter.

Figure
Figure 1

Locate plugs that carry the wires from each seat motor. The heavy wires are power, the thin wires are signals (not needed here).

 

Cut off the plugs, and strip 5mm insulation from each end.

 

Trace the wires from each of the motors (look at the plug at each motor) and label the wire ends.

 

Test each wire pair using a 12V source, the corresponding motor should move.

Figure
Figure 2
Locate and remove the seat control panel from the side of the seat.

Remove existing plugs and cables.

Remove cover of the switch board.

Figure
Figure 3
I did not take any photos before I started the wiring job, that’s why the photos show only the completed job.

There are four switches on the board. Each switch has 5 contacts as shown in the diagram.

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Figure 4
Here are the switches shown again with their designated connections (+, -, Mot).
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Figure 5
Preparation of the circuit board.
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Figure 6
Preparation of the circuit board (continued).
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Figure 7
First step: Connection of all positive(+) pins (shown in red).
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Figure 8
Second step: Connection of all negative (-) pins (shown in blue).
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Figure 9
Third step: Connection of all power supply (-) and (+).
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Figure 10
Fourth step: Connection of all Motor cables (pairs of orange and orange/red).
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Figure 11
Now reinstall the seat control panel, connect the +12V and -12V supply to the battery, and connect the motor cable pairs to the corresponding wires coming from each seat motor.

Test the polarity of each motor cable pair by temporary connecting the cables and moving the switches, if the seat moves in the wrong direction, simply switch the polarity.

As the winter ended, I lost my patience and did not repeat the same work for the lumbar adjustment. Perhaps I'll do that next winter. For now, the lumbar is set to a comfortable position and I am not moving it.

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Comments and Suggestions:
JayComments: Here are some more details on the lumbar switches.

There are three connections. The "top" one is square and is right under the push button itself. This is the output that goes to two places: the lumbar and the rectifier for all but the back one. There is the middle one which is 12V. And, there is the bottom one that goes to ground.

The grounds and 12V can all be shared.

Oh, and on the passenger seat, where I said you just add 12V and ground, this is at a big yellow connector under the seat. There are only two big connectors inside of it. It's pretty obvious which one is 12V i.e. the red one and the other one is ground.
December 13, 2011
JayComments: I just did this. The drivers side and passenger side are different. The passenger side just needs power and ground and everything works. On the drivers side, it is a coded system that sends a binary signal to a computer, which has a memory. The pictures above are to the drivers side. I basically wired it to match the passenger side, and everything works. Instead of doing all the wires above, I first figured out what preprinted paths were already there and used them, where I could. I also had to cut/break some paths. And, as he noted, you definitely have to cut through the board to break a path under the main switches.

One other trick is that you definitely need to install those three black cylinder rectifiers - 1N5404. I picked them up at Radio Shack for a few dollars. Three of the lumbar switches go through them before going to a single output.

Here is a thread I started with pictures of the passenger side:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/640940-installing-997-seats-older-car.html
December 13, 2011
Jan K.Comments: I used 1mm diameter speaker wires for this job, have not had any problems so far. The ends of each orange/orange-red wire in the photos above was soldered to the original wire at each motor see gray and green plugs in first photo. Again, no problems with that since a year now.
December 26, 2010
PuddinheadComments: Great article. I have a 1996 C4S 911 and am trying to mwire newly acquired 996 seats in my 993. The 996 driver seat is memory controleld which fouls things up; wiring wise. Question: Did you find that the original wires from the seat switch unit were too small and neede to be replaced with thicker wires to handle the direct 12volts ? The original thin wired seat switch unit are for signals from the seat ECU/Module ??

Thanks,

Patrick
December 11, 2010
 Followup from the Pelican Staff: I'm not 100% sure, but the seat controls in the 996 & Boxster might go through a relay prior to sending voltage to the motor. Although that would require a two-way relay for every motor in each seat, which I don't think it has. Indeed, the memory seats are controlled by the computer, but I think the switch mechanism may be similar. - Wayne at Pelican Parts 

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