From:	darling@simlab.arc.nasa.gov on behalf of Dave Darling [darling@simlab.arc.nasa.gov]
Sent:	Thursday, April 22, 1999 9:26 AM
To:	ian nelson
Cc:	914
Subject:	Re: [914] VW Deep Sump Kits??

At 7:33 PM -0700 4/21/99, ian nelson wrote:
>i was just wondering if its possible to use a deep oil sump kit off of a VW
>bug on a 1.7L 914 engine? i have the chance to buy a 1.5 quart deep kit off
>a bug and they look similar to the ones for a 914, but im not totally sure,
>any info is appreciated, thanx in advance.

	I haven't seen anyone else field this one yet, so...
	I don't know this for certain, but I think the way that the sump
attatches to the case is different for the Type I and Type IV motors.  The
stock sump plate on a Type I has six (?) bolts around the edge.  The stock
Type IV sump plate has a single nut (that looks like a bolt) up through
the center--right into the oil pickup tube!  I would think that the tubes
are also quite different between the two, since the Type IV has a stud in
the middle of it.  That means the oil pickup tube extension (needed with a
deep sump) would be different as well.
	You might be able to put the bits together and make it work, but I
think it would probably be cheaper (and a heck of a lot easier!) to get a
sump designed specifically for the Type IV.  Weltmeister's Oil Trap (AKA
the "tuna can") springs to mind.  I think it's only about $50, maybe less
from Pelican.  [Blatant plug.]
	I used the tuna can for autocrossing and was quite happy with the
results.  The oil light stayed out in the corners until I did four on-ramps
in a row--four 270 degree right turns, one after the other, with VERY small
straights in between.  (It was quite fun!)  The light came on toward the
end of the fourth ramp.

--DD

Dave Darling                                     74 914 2.0 (kaput)
                   darling@simlab.arc.nasa.gov
	   "If it ain't broke--fix it until it *is*!"