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      I've heard that you need a gasket for the transmission end cover that is specifically matched for the ring & pinion.  Is this correct?

     On the gasket for the end cover, they are just one size. Removing the end cover does not affect the R&P at all. The gasket on the other side of the intermediate plate comes in three different thicknesses so it can be shimmed for correct backlash.  Also, if you take the transmission completely apart, and use the same R&P and the same case and intermediate plate, you can just replace the gasket with the same thickness gasket and the backlash should remain as original.


     I am looking for the following parts for my 1973 2.0:  Front and rear factory sway bars/mounts, it is unclear to me if these were a standard option fitted to all two liter cars, can you shed some light on this?

     I’ve always heard that all 73 2.0 cars came with front and rear swaybars installed at the factory. That is usually one of the first things I look for when looking at a 73 914 2.0. I don’t know that this is absolute, yet I can’t remember ever seeing an original 73 2.0 without them. I have seen a couple of 1.7’s that were changed to 2.0’s that did not have bars....... parts:


        I'm having problems with backfiring on my 914.  I don’t hear any exhaust leaks. I’ve always owned VW’s (5) and 914 (3), so I’m very familiar with exhaust leaks. I took a compression test when I first got the car (almost two years ago) and if I remember correctly I was surprised to find that the cylinders were all above 100 psi and within 10 psi of one another. I keep forgetting to ask what is the proper way to do a leak-down test?  The dwell has to be a non-issue because I installed a smog legal CompuFire electronic ignition. I will double check the timing. It’s supposed to be set with the vacuum line disconnected from the distributor on my ‘74 2.0L, isn’t it?

     Aren’t 914 problems fun? In no particular order, here are some answers/suggestions:

     Adjust the fuel pressure up to 34 psi. This should be the pressure while the engine is running, not just cranking (although they should be almost the same).

     Rebuilt injectors aren’t bad, but from past experience we ran into a problem with rebuilt components every once in a while - injectors, fuel pumps, pressure sensors, and AFC boxes.  So I guess I’m saying the there is a possibility that the injectors are not 100%. (It could be that the rebuilt injectors need 34 psi to work properly - 29 psi may not be enough).

      Test the injectors by pulling out two (one complete side), and letting the spray onto a glass or clear plastic container. Watch the spray pattern, and see if the both spray about the same - a fine mist, like a shower head. Compare the spray pattern of all four, and see if one is obviously worse than the others.

     Pull the spark plugs out and see if one has a completely different color than the others. This would narrow it down to a particular cylinder. Or see if the are all too lean (white), or too rich (black).

     Triple-check the timing. If it is set to specs and runs okay, try both advancing or retarding the timing up to 10 degrees and drive it and see what happens. Also, make sure the distributor advance is working okay. What else? I don’t know. Try the above and see what happens.


      I need some information on refinishing Mahles for my 914. Mine are bead blasted and ready to paint or polish. What can I use to fill small hammer dents? I started polishing the rims, but the surface is so coarse I now doubt this choice. 

     The Mahle wheels don’t polish up real well. The original finish was usually paint. I would use Wurth silver lacquer paint to make it look original. Filling hammer dents will usually require a welder to fill in the low spots, and the someone to grind/polish down the filler to the original height.


     My problem on a ‘73 914 1.7L fuel injected California engine. Engine was rebuilt about 2500 miles ago. It has a missing problem above 2000 rpm that I just can’t get rid of. Replace all the vacuum lines, plugs, distributor cap, rotor, pressure sensor, and injectors. It has electronic ignition..Allison XR700. My next thought is the fuel injector trigger points in the distributor or maybe a bad ground in the distributor itself.

     My first thought on your missing problem is to get a timing light and check the advance on the distributor. If you are getting too much or too little advance you will end up with a miss. The If the trigger points are going bad, you will usually get two cylinders with a problem as the points work two at a time. Pull the plugs and see if there is one particular cylinder (or two) that look like they are firing worse than the other. Is the miss at 2500 - 3000 RPM only? If so it could be the throttle switch is worn. Is the mixture okay (at both idle and 2500 RPM)? You can have a system that runs lean at idle, and then runs very rich above 2000 RPM. That problem could be a pressure sensor, head sensor, the brain, temp sensor II, or ?

     One other thing is to take off the Allison and put back in standard points, and then see what happens. I have seen electronic ignitions fail more often than you would imagine.


     I’ve only driven this car in the rain a couple of times, but each time i have i experience this problem. The car runs fine in the rain but god forbid that you turn it off because it will not start again until it’s been given sufficient drying time (sometimes a day or more). My best guess is some sort of electronic device (possibly in the fuel system). The car will turn over and run for a few seconds and then die. It will continue to do this as long as the battery holds out. Could there be a device that sends info to start the fuel pump and then switches over to provide a constant fuel flow to keep the engine running? I’d appreciate any help in this matter.

    Try isolating the problem by wrapping the two most important electronic pieces in a plastic bag (the relay board and the EFI Brain). I would first guess at the relay board since it sits in an unprotected area (should have a plastic cover), and it controls the fuel pump via a relay.  There should be a plastic cap over the circuit board which keeps water off of it (do you have the same problem after you wash the car?).

     A couple of things to try:

     Take the cover off the circuit board and clean the circuit board connectors (take the relays and connectors off to clean under them). Make sure the plastic rain catch (on the engine lid) is attached correctly, and that the funnels that catch the water are intact and mounted correctly. If the one on the left is askew, it might be sending water on to the circuit board.

If your not sure if it is a fuel problem, than take the distributor cap off and make sure there is not moisture inside of it.


      Regarding the 911 adjusting screws, I remember an article, I think it was in European Car, that overhauled a type 4 and they recommended the 911 adjusters. The regular ones I put in last year came from someone else and I think the problem is they are too soft as they are showing significant wear after only one year. I’ll go with your advice though.

     About the 911 valve adjusting screws, they are not a simple bolt on addition. The pushrods need to be shortened, and the rocker stands need to be spaced, and the whole valve train geometry needs to be set up again. It is a worthwhile addition if you want to go through the expense and have a good machine shop that can set it up for you, but I’m not sure you get that much added value out of it.


     I am working on a 914-6 conversion and have a question concerning the brakes. In the front I have a 911S setup with slightly wider Carrera rotors and machined alloy calipers for clearance. I want to upgrade the rear brakes as well. Automobile Atlanta suggests several options, one of which involves installing spacers in the rear calipers and using vented discs. Can you explain how this works, or who might have more info on this option. Do you use 911 or 914-6 rear rotors? (Are 914-6 rear rotors vented?) What is involved in modifying the rear hubs to accept 911 rotors?

     Is it even feasible to stick with the stock 914 rear calipers, or should these be the first to go. I don’t need anything fancy, so this option interests me if it is works reasonable well, especially since it seems like the easiest and cheapest.

     As a side note/question, I have talked to a few people with –6 conversions who have installed vented rotors and 911 calipers on the rear of their 914s, and said that this isn’t that much of an improvement over using the stock 914 rear calipers and removing the factory proportioning valve. Would this be an economical way to go, and just install vented discs and space the calipers in the rear? Again, I don’t really understand what is involved with these spacers-whether the caliper is just spaced out to fit the different offset of the 911 rotor, or whether the caliper itself if actually spaced apart to fit over the 911 rotor. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

     While on the subject, I also have one more question concerning wheel backspacing. I would rather not flare my car for various reasons, and I have read in several places that the widest wheels you can use in the factory wheel wells are 6" (in the rear), unless you use ‘67 911R wheels (chuckle, chuckle). Unless I’m mistaken, the backspacing on all other 911 wheels and most 944 wheels is 4 7/8", whereas the backspacing on the 911R wheel was 5 1/8". I realize trying to remove ?’ or even 1/8" from the wheels could considerably weaken them, and thus is probably not a good idea. But what about removing material from the aluminum hubs on the car? Has anyone tried this? Is it a bad idea? At least in the front, the hubs seem to have plenty of material, though I haven’t looked at the rears yet. Sorry for asking so many questions. Thanks for your time.

Wayne writes:

     The front brakes do most of the work at stopping the car, the rears really don’t do much. Anything you do usually results in the loss of the parking brake. The best solution would be to find some 914-6 calipers. Not very common. 914-6 rotors are solid like the 914-4 ones (I’m 95% sure, Tom check me on this one). I would stick with the stock 914-4 rotors, and just look for a set of 914-6 rear calipers.

     Hmm, on your wheels questions, I agree that you probably shouldn’t remove metal from the wheels. On the other hand removing material from the hub doesn’t really sound like a good idea either. I’ve never heard of this being done. I suppose that you’re trying to put 7" wheels on the rear. If you use a wider profile tire on a six inch wheel, then doesn’t the problem become actually fitting the tire in the fender, versus fitting the wheel on the hub? Your overall goal is tire patch on the road, I assume? I would go with a six inch wheel, and put a wide profile tire on there.

Tom writes:

      Spacers on the rear calipers is exactly that. The calipers are taken apart and spacers are put in to allow for the wider vented discs. Early 911’s came with either solid (911T) discs or vented (E or S) discs. The calipers were the same, just with spacers on the vented ones. All 914-6’ came with solid rear discs standard. That should tell you that the calipers are identical (except spaced) and that the discs are the same (except vented, which only provides for better cooling).

     Wayne is right as far as upgrading the rear brakes doesn’t give you much added braking power. If you have good 914-4 rear calipers, and the rest of the braking system is good, you should be in good shape. The 914-4 rear caliper works fine with a 914-6 rear brake disc. The rear hubs need to be changed or modified to accept the rear 5-bolt discs. You can drill the hubs and put in studs, but I don’t recommend that - the 914-4 hubs are thinner than the 914-6/911 hub where the stud is held in place. We like to change the rear to this combination: 914-6 rear stub axle, 914-6 rear brake disc, and early 911 hub. This is a bolt-on upgrade, and essentially gives you a 914-6 rear end, one that uses standard replacement parts.

     One other comment, if you use a 911 rear caliper you lose the parking brake.......

     About the wheels, my attitude is keep it simple, and use the 6" 911 wheels.


     I am trying to get some information on converting my 914 rear brakes to a 5 bolt pattern and get some better braking out of them.  There are plenty of articles about how the 911 front brakes bolt directly to the 914 chassis but there is little information on the rear conversion.  What can be done with the rear setup. I don't want to redrill my current rotors because that will not improve braking. I also do not want a setup that can not be used with a parking brake because that's dangerous!

     In order to change to a 5-bolt pattern and retain your parking brake is to retain your 914-4 rear calipers (or find some non-existent 914-6 calipers). You can do this by drilling your hubs for 5-bolt and changing the rotor to 914-6 (I don’t recommend drilling the hubs - they are thinner than the 914-6/911 hubs where the studs are mounted). Or you can change the rear to a 914-6 setup with: 914-6 stub axles, 914-6 brake rotors, and early 911 rear hubs. This allows you to retain the 914 rear caliper and the parking brake -and it is a bolt-on conversion. Hope that helps.


      What I’m about to ask is not a regular problem you may have. A friend an I are changing a 1977 911S 2.7 CIS to a 2.4 Webber setup.  A pulled head stud led to the 2.4 motor which he is happy with .When he sold the 2.7 he let the wire harness go with the motor.He said that the 2.4 has one on it all ready!  Well I started to look at the pins an I’m not sure that they are in the same place! This motor has a harness out of a 914/6, Will it work?? Or will it be "A" I think it goes here, no here, you get the drift. We only need a bare bones harness, which we already have.

     The wiring for all the 911 motors are fairly similar. The wiring to the alternator is pretty much the same, depending on whether there is an internal or external regulator. There were a couple of extra wires for the fuel injection on those cars. The ignition wires (CD box and distributor), were the same, unless the 77 motor came with a 6-pin CD. All the color coding is consistent throughout the years. If you have a Haynes manual, there are some wiring diagrams that can help. Just break down the installation into one section at a time (alternator, ignition, etc.) and give it a try.


How do I safely install replacement rollers on my 914 trunk springs?

Wayne,

Thanks for the confirmation of my diagnosis! By the way, I recently ordered replacement rollers for the rear trunk from Pelican and found an easy way to install them. Using a screw driver-type nut driver with a 6 or 7 mm deep well socket, I slid the socket over the end of the tension spring in the engine compartment. By using the nut driver as a lever arm, you can relieve the pressure on the roller and slide it off the stud. I recommend two people for this operation but it works perfectly!

Miles


How do I diagnose problems with the 914 headlamp switch?

Perfect! I was working on a table, but your info is more clear. If somebody with a tech reference type of site wants to post that, I am sure it would come in handy. The only thing I would add is the state of the rheostat:

full CCW = open
full CW = closed

Here is a table of the connections from terminal to terminal in each switch position (unwired switch in your hand):

Off:

58a to 58b (through a rheostat controlled by knob rotation)
30 to 30b
15, 58L, 58R, K, 57, 56 : all are open
Position 1: (half-way out)
58a to 58b (through a rheostat controlled by knob rotation)
30 to 58L, 58R, K, and 57
15, 30b, 56: all are open

Position 2: (fully out)
58a to 58b (through a rheostat controlled by knob rotation)
30 to 58L, 58R, and K
15 to 56
30b, 57: both are open
Brad Anders

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